Select Committee on Northern Ireland Affairs Minutes of Evidence


Supplementary memorandum submitted by the Gun Trade Association Northern Ireland

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

  The Negotiations Committee of The Gun Trade Association of Northern Ireland, (hereafter the Association), has commissioned this submission to the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee. This report is the culmination of several years of local lobbying by the Association, and whether explicit within this document or not carries with it the professional expertise and intelligence gathered within that time of the Associations Negotiations Committee. In brief this document will present the main elements of concern within the draft legislation, for which the Association wishes to make proposal of alternatives.

  The Association acknowledges and welcomes the "benchmarks" allied to the proposed legislation and welcomes the opportunity to appraise the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee of its interpretations, as to how such benchmarking has been employed within the proposed legislative changes. The Association also Acknowledges that it shall make submission relating to existing legislation from the old order which has been carried into the new order with the intention of exploring the possibility of "parity of esteem" concerning similar UK legislation.

  For the purposes of this report the Association has identified that the key "benchmark" for the presentation of its critic should be...

    "The aim of the review was to assess whether the legislation remained relevant, effective and proportionate and whether it struck the right balance between the level of public safety demanded by modern society and the reasonable expectations of the shooting community and the firearms trade."

  In responding to specific articles within the proposed draft legislation the Association has devised the following matrix of review which shall be deployed against all changed, modified or inserted elements of that document.

  Article—The number of the article discussed within the provisions of the order.

  Relevance and Effectiveness—Assessment of legislation's relevance and effectiveness.

  Aspect to Public Safety—Characteristics of legislation weighted for or against public safety.

  Aspect to Firearms trade—Characteristics of legislation weighted for or against trading.

  The formation of this report will hold with the following format. That each element of the report will identify the article to be discussed and will provide analysis of that article according to the benchmark identified and present such analysis according to the matrix of review. The analysis will demarcate clearly the Associations primary, secondary and tertiary articles of response and review within this document by means of colour coding the article number title within each response matrix.

  Eg

  Article 1—Denotes a response article of primary concern to the Association.

  Article 2—Denotes a response article of secondary concern to the Association.

  Article 3—Denotes a response article worthy of comment by the Association.

  As previously stated this document represents a brief elaboration of the considerable communications and research intelligence gained by the Association. It is expected that the prioritisation of our responses will assist the committee in examining that which is felt to be most crucial to the trade of firearms within Northern Ireland.

  Accordingly it is anticipated that the professionalism of the Association's membership and their expert credentials as responsible persons involved in the trade of Firearms need not be expanded upon within this report. Rather it is given that this professionalism and expertise is acknowledged and recognised by the PSNI, NIO and the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee and shall be called upon orally if required.

RESPONSE TO THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORDER

ARTICLE 3. FIREARMS CERTIFICATE REQUIRED

Relevance and Effectiveness

  The Association makes no challenge to the relevance of this provision, in so far as the possession of Firearms within any modern society must be regulated and effectively licensed. The effectiveness of this provision however must be questioned in that, accounting for the minor changes in this provision from the 1981 Order, this has always been a provision, which has had to be broken.

Aspect to Public Safety

  This provision provides adequately for the needs of public safety and clearly establishes a system of licensing which is respectful of society, shooters and the trade. However the Association believes that review of this provision to permit non-FAC holders to accompany FAC holders in the use of firearms would be a natural addendum to this article. Such experiential use permits instruction in the safe use and correct procedures for use, by experienced shooters to those who may wish to adopt shooting as a sport, pastime or hobby. Such permissions would represent no additional aspect of risk to public safety as anyone who has been granted a firearms certificate is deemed by the Chief Constable to be "a fit person to be entrusted with a firearm"[1] and "competent in the use of such a firearm or ammunition"[2].

Aspect to Firearms trade

  Whilst accommodating the existing public safety measures incumbent within this provision, the Association seeks to ratify within this article and or its associated schedules a means of providing accompanied and supervised shooting experience to non-FAC holders, when accompanied by an experienced FAC holder. The Association believes that such provision should be made in concord with Article 5(2)(c) insofar as experience gained which may relate to the grant of a firearms certificate and the competence of an individual to be objectively granted or denied a certificate will be best achieved through properly supervised shooting experience. This development of the draft legislation would be seen as easily deliverable and not to the detriment of the existing proposal in relation to the benchmark.

  In addition the Association believes that suitable denotation should be made within the legislation to display where non-FAC holders and firearms dealers are protected from infraction of the law whilst conducting firearms transactions.

ARTICLE 4. APPLICATION FOR FIREARM CERTIFICATE

Relevance and Effectiveness

  Elements of the provisions within this article are both supported and objected to by the Association. It is accepted and supported by the Association that anyone wishing to be granted a firearms certificate, should have his/her credentials and authenticity properly and adequately assessed by the issuing police force. Accordingly the Association commends the relevance of this Article, but must strenuously object to several of its provisions and their possible future effect/effectiveness.

Aspect to Public Safety

  Public Safety is maintained and adequately supported by this article and its provisions. The Association accepts and presents no challenge to the following provision of this article in relation to Public Safety.

  4. (1)(a)(b)(c).

  4. (2)(a)(b).

  4. (7)(a).

  4. (8).

  In relation to the remainder of the provisions within this article the Association questions the legitimacy and accuracy of same in relation to the proportionate maintenance of adequate public safety.

  Article 4(2)(c) and Article 4(3) makes provision for the accompaniment of two named referees who are asked to objectively support the application for an FAC. Given the present systems unequalled success in vetting applicants suitability to be granted a firearms certificate, and the fact that this will be further reinforced by the ability of the PSNI to approach the applicants Medical Practitioner to request relevant medical history in relation to the grant/re-grant of a certificate. The additional request of referees is seen as an unnecessary and extraneous requirement given the intelligence and expertise of the agencies already involved in the vetting process. In addition Article 4(4) appears to be unnecessarily exclusive.

Aspect to Firearms trade

  Within Article 4 paragraph (6)(a)(i) it should be noted that a firearms dealer who operates a firearms club as an element of his business is acknowledged as a suitable referee. This presents an obvious paradox given that the Association presumes that dealers are precluded from acting as a referee in Article 4(4)(b) as he may have a vested interest in the sale of a firearm to a potential applicant.

ARTICLE 5. GRANT OF A FIREARMS CERTIFICATE

Relevance and Effectiveness

  The Association notes that the relevance and effectiveness of this Article in so far as it reinforces the process of application for a firearms certificate. In general this Article if enacted makes accountable the Chief Constable of the PSNI for all granting of certificates within Northern Ireland, and as such delivers a conduit of accountability to the general public. The Association accepts this Article and its provisions with only one exception (5)(2)(c), and understanding that the primacy of public safety which is already upheld within this redrafted article suggests minor changes to this section.

Aspect to Public Safety

  As stated the redraft of this Article is intended to explicitly serve the primacy of public safety in relation to the Grant of Firearms Certificates within Northern Ireland. The Association commends the spirit and tenure of this article, with the exception of (5(2)(c). This provision entrusts to the Chief Constable an un-objective decision making process which can best be described as lacking the ability to be measured. Complementing our objection to this section of Article 5 and associating it with our earlier critic of Article 3, it is unreasonable to make an assessment of shooting competency if an applicant cannot be in possession of a firearm or experience shooting under supervision if he/she is not a firearms certificate holder. To this end if this article were enforced to the letter an effective "catch 22" has been developed.

Aspect to Firearms trade

  The Association would seek prior to the enactment of this legislation, to have in its possession the means by which competency will be assessed by Firearms Licensing and Explosives Branch. This would be seen as vitally important to the Trade within Northern Ireland as even the smallest variation in the means of deciding competency (and therefore the sale of a firearm) could impact upon retail receipts and volumes of sales for registered firearms dealers.

ARTICLE 6. CONDITIONS

Relevance and Effectiveness

  According to the Grant of a firearms certificate, the Association deems this article relevant and effective in conjunction with Article 5 and its provisions to ensure primacy of public safety. However we would seek assurance that guidance on conditions that may be attached to a firearms certificate as per 6(2)(a) should be produced in advance of this legislation being enacted and agreed through a consultative process.

Aspect to Public Safety

  As per comments associated with Article 5, aspect to public safety.

Aspect to Firearms trade

  The Association holds no objection to this Article in relation to this article, holding as we do to our comments above and relating to Article 5's aspect to public safety.

ARTICLE 7. RESTRICTIONS ON GRANT OF FIREARM CERTIFICATE TO YOUNG PERSONS

Relevance and Effectiveness

  Article 7 clearly has little relevance in relation to contemporary shooters within Northern Ireland who wish to progress young shooters within the sport. Presently the interested "young shots" within Northern Ireland whose families can afford the expense are regularly "exported" to Scotland and England to undertake instruction and competition.

  The effectiveness of this article is simply to preclude the youth of Northern Ireland from participating at a formative point in their lives in a sport that promotes personal and collective responsibility and respect. Accordingly the Association strenuously objects to the inclusion of this article as it serves no purpose other than that of discrimination due to age.

Aspect to Public Safety

  The evidence collated by interested parties within GB, clearly identifies that there is no risk to public safety in relation to young shooters taking part in this sport under the correct supervision and guidance.

  It should be noted that this age restriction only applies to those young people who do not belong to a Firearms Club authorised under Article 35 or who do not belong to the Army Cadet Force. Please note Part 1 Introductory Interpretation—Under definition of "Firearms Club".

Aspect to Firearms Trade

  In so far as the Association has briefly displayed the lack of relevance and effectiveness of this article and its inability affect the primacy of public safety given that there is clear evidence to the contrary, we believe that this article should be removed. Clearly there is also a commercial detriment to the trading community within Northern Ireland, as a portion of their potential client base is unevenly prohibited to them under this article.

ARTICLE 8. CONTENT AND DURATION OF FIREARMS CERTIFICATES

Relevance and Effectiveness

  The Association is please to commend the relevance and effectiveness of this proposed article of legislation. In particular the Association welcomes the increase in duration of the period for which an FAC is issued. Increasing as it is proposed from three to five years.

Aspect to Public Safety

  Commending as we do the re-draft of this article, the Association would suggest that as a means of making most efficient use of public time and money, the certificate be granted for a period of 10 years. This proposal presents no additional risk to public safety given that any point in the life of the FAC it may be revoked if the holder infringes the conditions under which it is held.

Aspect to Firearms Trade

  The production of a 10 year license would dramatically reduce the operational costs incurred in both FLB and the registered firearm dealers premises, as any reduction in recurrent paper work is an accepted principle in the modernisation of contemporary businesses.

ARTICLE 9. REVOCATION OR VARIATION OF FIREARM CERTIFICATE

Relevance and Effectiveness

  The Association accepts the irrefutable relevance of this article in relation to the powers of the Chief Constable and his authority to revoke or vary a firearms certificate. Accordingly the Association sees this article as an effective means of controlling firearms.

Aspect to Public Safety

  This article adequately represents the proportionate interests of the general public and the shooting community.

Aspect to Firearms Trade

  This article adequately represents the proportionate interests of the general public and the trade community with the exception of section 9(6). As the authority to vary a firearms certificate exists only with the Chief Constable and due to operational constraints within Firearms Licensing and Explosives Branch, as well as seasonal demands for manpower etc the processing of variations to firearms certificates (One-on One-off) is often a task, which is prolonged far, more than is necessary. As a consequence dealers are consistently forced to endure considerable and lengthy commercial outlay for the practise of removing one firearm and adding a same calibre firearm to the permit of an existing firearms holder who is licensed to hold that calibre of firearm. As persons of business our membership possess the relevant commercial acumen to identify that this is a system which inaccurately represents the needs for our members to realise cash flow and to deliver upon revenue targets and quotas associated with their related franchises.

  The Association wishes to work in partnership with Government and Law Enforcement and feels that to do so they must demonstrate clearly their commitment to the fulfilment of "real cost recovery and best practise implementation" in relation to the implementation of this legislation.

  The Association's proposal is that the facilitation of Firearms Variations be empowered to the registered firearms dealers in keeping with common practise throughout the United Kingdom. In deploying this function to the dealers the PSNI and the traders will naturally see a real cost recovery through reduced operational involvement and reduced capital outlay. Additionally best practise is adhered to without any impingement on public safety.

  The Association believes that the PSNI do not object in principle to registered firearms dealers conducting the administrative function of the process commonly referred to as One On One Offs. Accordingly we would request that under this legislation the appropriate amendments be made to empower the PSNI to delegate this task.

ARTICLE 10. CONSEQUENCES OF REVOCATION

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 11. CERTIFICATE FOR PROHIBITED WEAPON

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 12. SURRENDER, ETC OF FIREARMS ON EXPIRATION OF FIREARM CERTIFICATE

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 13. VISITORS' FIREARM PERMITS

Relevance and Effectiveness

  Whilst the Association must accept the relevance of policing the transit of persons and firearms into Northern Ireland, we feel that there are larger issues and considerations that should be examined prior to commending this article as proportionately effective. This complex and lengthy article is essentially the Northern Ireland legislative provisions enacted locally as identified within the European Weapons directive (91/477/EEC).

Aspect to Public Safety

  Essentially the Association accepts that the European Weapons Directive (91/477/EEC) provides adequately, to any member state wishing to adopt it, for public safety to be upheld and maintained within the European Union. Existing as it does, as a Europe wide document the European Firearms Pass should be accepted fully as the means of transiting firearms legally held by a person authorised and fully vetted by the police force of a member state. The European Weapons Directive provides a competent, unilateral and Europe wide means to facilitate visiting sportsmen additionally it affords the member states with an unambiguous system and schedule of firearms which that state may adopt or preclude in relation to visitors.

Aspect to Firearms trade

  This article when assessed within the most local context of Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland is unnecessarily complex. A shooter within the Republic of Ireland must in order to travel into Northern Ireland to shoot have in his/her possession a European Pass, a visitors certificate issued by the Firearms Licensing and Explosives Branch and his/her FAC. It is our view that adopting the European wide directive and accepting the validity of the European Firearms Pass for visiting shooters could simplify this legislation.

ARTICLE 14. FIREARM CERTIFICATES AND SHOTGUN CERTIFICATES GRANTED IN GREAT BRITAIN

Relevance and Effectiveness

  Historical background associated with much earlier licensing within GB in relation to shotguns and their transit into Northern Ireland this article is seen as an artefact of those much earlier licensing systems. Due to the increased licensing requirements in GB, which now record similar information to the FAC's issued in Northern Ireland this article is seen as neither relevant nor effective.

Aspect to Public Safety

  Public safety cannot be seen as being affected by the movement of a UK citizen from the mainland to Northern Ireland.

Aspect to Firearms trade

  The limitations associated with this article may have a marginal impact on tourism within Northern Ireland.

ARTICLE 15. AIR GUNS HELD WITHOUT A FIREARM CERTIFICATE IN GREAT BRITAIN

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 16. ISSUE OF EUROPEAN FIREARMS PASS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

  Subject to comments already stated for Article 13.

ARTICLE 17. DURATION OF EUROPEAN FIREARMS PASS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 18. RENEWAL OF EUROPEAN FIREARMS PASS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 19. ARTICLE 7 AUTHORITIES

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 20. VARIATION, ENDORSEMENT ETC. OF EUROPEAN DOCUMENTS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 21. FIREARMS DEALER'S CERTIFICATE REQUIRED

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 22. APPLICATION FOR FIREARMS DEALER'S CERTIFICATE

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 23. GRANT OF FIREARMS DEALER'S CERTIFICATE

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 24. CONDITIONS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 25. CONTENT AND DURATION OF FIREARMS DEALER'S CERTIFICATE

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 26. REVOCATION OR VARIATION OF FIREARMS DEALER'S CERTIFICATE

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 27. SURRENDER, ETC. OF FIREARMS ON EXPIRATION OF FIREARMS DEALER'S CERTIFICATE

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 28. PLACES OF BUSINESS: ADDITION TO CERTIFICATE

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 29. PLACES OF BUSINESS; REMOVAL FROM CERTIFICATE

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 30. OFFENCES

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 31. CONSEQUENCES WHERE DEALER CONVICTED OF AN OFFENCE

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 32. EXEMPTIONS FROM ARTICLE 21 FOR AUCTIONEERS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 33. OCCASIONAL PERMITS

Relevance and Effectiveness

  Accepting that persons applying for occasional permits are registered firearms dealers this article is seen as extraneous and therefore neither relevant nor effective. Such provision for occasional permits may reasonably be made via conditions appended to the RFD's certificate.

Aspect to Public Safety

  The requirements of public safety can be maintained and upheld by the RFD liaising with the local Divisional Explosives Officer as to suitable security arrangements for the event or events.

Aspect to Firearms trade

  Acceptance of the Association's proposal provides a clear methodology within this process of granting occasional permits to reduce unnecessary administration and expense.

ARTICLE 34. REVOCATION OR VARIATION OF OCCASIONAL PERMIT

  Refer to comments already stated for Article 33.

ARTICLE 35. FIREARMS CLUBS AUTHORISATION

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 36. REVOCATION OF AUTHORISATION

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 37. POWER OF ENTRY

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 38. BUSINESS AND OTHER TRANSACTIONS WITH FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 39. RECORD OF TRANSACTIONS IN FIREARMS

Relevance and Effectiveness

  Whilst acceding to the effectiveness of this article, the Association must question that relevance of several requirements within this article. Acknowledging as we do that records relating to transactions must be maintained and made available to inspection by the PSNI, the detail of the records kept must be queried.

Aspect to Public Safety

  It is possible to review the system of record of transitions in firearms without creating any risk to public safety. The Association would suggest as a starting point that transactions relating to shotgun cartridges should be aligned more closely to the effective system operating in GB. In addition there are several instances where details such as Name, Address etc etc are transcribed in manual logs held by the RFD. These details could easily be substituted by the RFD recording the FAC number, which is a unique identifier of the individual, involved in the transaction.

Aspect to Firearms trade

  Should the Association's proposals be accepted in relation to record of transactions in firearms, the natural benefit to the trade would be a reduction in administration and cost without causing any reduction in the quality of information recorded.

ARTICLE 40. TRANSFERS OF FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION TO BE IN PERSON

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 41. NOTIFICATION OF DEALINGS INVOLVING FIREARMS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 42. NOTIFICATION OF LOSS, REPAIR OR DEACTIVATION OF FIREARMS, ETC

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 43. NOTIFICATION OF DISPOSAL OR DESTRUCTION, ETC TAKING PLACE OUTSIDE OF NORTHERN IRELAND

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 44. PURCHASE OR ACQUISITION OF FIREARMS IN OTHER MEMBER STATES

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 45. FIREARMS ACQUIRED FOR EXPORT

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 46. WEAPONS SUBJECT TO GENERAL PROHIBITION

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 47. EXEMPTIONS FROM REQUIREMENT OF AUTHORITY UNDER ARTICLE 46

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 48. POSSESSION OF FIREARMS ON SERVICE PREMISES, ETC

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

  Subject to comments already stated for Article 7.

ARTICLE 49. POWER TO PROHIBIT MOVEMENT OF FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article with the exception of 49(4), which is essentially an inclusion of GB legislation (Firearms Act 1968) relating to the removal of firearms from GB to Northern Ireland. The Association wishes to make comment that we are already seeking the revocation of The Firearms (Removal to Northern Ireland) Order 1990 (relating to Firearms Acts 1968 to 1988) via submission to the Home Office. This submission has been well documented. We believe the repeal of this legislation has the support of the NIO and Firearms Licensing and Explosives Branch, which would render Article 49(4) irrelevant.

ARTICLE 50. POWER OF SEARCH WITH WARRANT

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 51. POWERS OF CONSTABLES TO STOP AND SEARCH

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 52. PRODUCTION OF FIREARMS FOR BALLISTIC AND OTHER TESTS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 53. PRODUCTION OF CERTIFICATES ETC

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 54. POLICE POWERS IN RELATION TO FIREARMS TRAFFIC

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

  Subject to comments already stated for Article 49

ARTICLE 55. SEIZURE AND DETENTION OF FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 56. POSSESSION OF FIREARM WITH INTENT

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 57. USE OF FIREARM TO RESIST ARREST

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 58. CARRYING A FIREARM WITH CRIMINAL INTENT

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 59. CARRYING OR DISCHARGING FIREARM IN A PUBLIC PLACE

Relevance and Effectiveness

  The Association provides no challenge to the relevance or effectiveness of this article.

Aspect to Public Safety

  The Association would wish to bring to the attention of the committee the obvious failure of 59(2) when compared to The Firearms (Northern Ireland) Order 1981 Article 20(2).

Aspect to Firearms trade

  The Association makes no submission relating to this article in relation to firearms trade.

ARTICLE 60. TRESPASSING WITH FIREARM

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 61. PROHIBITION OF POSSESSION, ETC. OF FIREARM BY CERTAIN PERSONS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 62. POSSESSION OF FIREARM OR AMMUNITION IN SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 63. POSSESSION OF LOADED FIREARM WHILE DRUNK OR UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF DRUGS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 64. SUPPLYING FIREARM OR AMMUNITION TO PERSON WHO IS DRUNK, ETC

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 65. CONVERSION OF WEAPONS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 66. PROSECUTION ON PUNISHMENT OF OFFENCES

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 67. FORFEITURE AND DISPOSAL OF FIREARMS; CANCELLATION OF CERTIFICATE BY CONVICTING COURT

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 68 APPEAL TO COUNTY COURT FROM DECISION OF CHIEF CONSTABLE

Relevance and Effectiveness

  The Association welcomes the inclusion of this article within the proposed legislation as it provides a proper, effective and impartial conduit, to appeal against decisions, which are believed to be incorrect. However, the Association would suggest that to provide within this legislation a means of appeal 68(1)(2) and then within the same article 68(3) remove the means of appeal from all but the wealthiest within society, would appear to be against all sense of natural justice.

Aspect to Public Safety

  The Association makes no submission relating to this article in relation to Public Safety.

Aspect to Firearms trade

  The Association makes no submission relating to this article in relation to firearms trade.

ARTICLE 69. FEES

Relevance and Effectiveness

  The Association makes no submission relating to relevance and/or effectiveness of this article.

Aspect to Public Safety

  The Association makes no submission relating to this article in relation to Public Safety.

Aspect to Firearms trade

  The Association would seek clarification from the committee as to how the schedule of fees, Schedule 6 relating to this article was arrived at. In particular we would seek clarification as to the establishment of what would appear to be an extremely high fee for the grant and renewal of a dealers certificate.

ARTICLE 70. APPLICATION OF ORDER TO IMITATION FIREARMS WHICH ARE READILY CONVERTIBLE INTO FIREARMS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 71. APPLICATION OF ORDER TO CROWN SERVANTS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 72. APPLICATION OF CERTAIN PROVISION OF THIS ORDER TO POLICE

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 73. DELEGATION OF FUNCTIONS

Relevance and Effectiveness

  The Association sees this Article as pivotal to the creation of equitable trading rights within Northern Ireland under the guidance of the Chief Constables decision making powers.

Aspect to Public Safety

  As the power of delegation rests with the Chief Constable, it is inconceivable to assume that an increment of the Chief Constables powers would represent any additional risk to public safety.

Aspect to Firearms Trade

  It is imperative that the powers of the Chief Constable be increased under this Article, to include his/her ability to delegate administrative tasks to Registered Firearms Dealers, as he/she deems appropriate.

  Reference also to comments already stated relating to Article 9(6).

ARTICLE 74. REGULATIONS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 75. SAVINGS AND TRANSITIONAL PROVISION

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.

ARTICLE 76. AMENDMENTS AND REPEALS

  As identified within the draft legislation the Association sees no difficulty in fully accepting and recommending this article.



1   Ref: 1: Article 5 (2)(a). Back

2   Article 5(2)(c). Back


 
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